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Arroyo Posted by Jan G on June 20, 2018, 8:08 am Posted on behalf of Stephanie Wunner This is a view of the arroyo near Playa Blanca...they are just now making the channel down about 6 feet and looks like they have hit water. -------------------

Re: Arroyo Posted by stephanie on June 20, 2018, 8:17 am, in reply to "Arroyo" Thanks Jan for posting! I believe the idea to go as deep as the water table is so once the rains come and the river flows it will follow the water already present! The channel between lower Playa Blanca and Negritos is almost finished. Will check out what is happening by the yellow bridge this morning. The top pic shows Doris' guest house on the right and my house in the background! -------------------

Re: Arroyo Posted by david c on June 20, 2018, 8:43 am, in reply to "Re: Arroyo" I wonder where all that piled up dirt will go when it really rains hard? Right out to the mouth of the river where the ocean is already very shallow!! Progress?? -------------------

Re: Arroyo Posted by Daniel H on June 20, 2018, 9:30 am, in reply to "Re: Arroyo" Could be they are expecting a heavier than usual rainy season? I haven't searched it but have been hearing of 2 inch per hour rain's on the news recently. Found this searching around. "Rain holds an important religious significance in many cultures. The ancient Sumerians believed that rain was the semen of the sky-god An, which fell from the heavens to inseminate his consort, the earth-goddess Ki, causing her to give birth to all the plants of the earth.The Akkadians believed that the clouds were the breasts of Anu's consort Antu and that rain was milk from her breasts". https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Rain#In_culture_and_religion -------------------

Re: Arroyo Posted by Daniel H on June 20, 2018, 9:55 am, in reply to "Re: Arroyo" Did a search using - east pacific season forecast - 2018 East Pacific hurricane forecast: Active season to yield frequent tropical cyclones NOAA 2018 Eastern Pacific Hurricane Season Outlook I did another search - climate change rain - Climate Change Indicators Here is a link to one of the heavy rain events I mentioned in my post above A Hawaiian island got about 50 inches of rain in 24 hours. Scientists warn it's a sign of the future -------------------

Re: Arroyo Posted by KenB on June 20, 2018, 2:34 pm, in reply to "Arroyo" Jan, what does it look like at the mouth? Did they do any dirt/sand relocation down there? Thanks for the pics, very interesting. -------------------

Re: Arroyo Posted by stephanie on June 20, 2018, 4:13 pm, in reply to "Re: Arroyo" Ken, Jan posted the pics for me because both my ipad and myself are tech challenged, at the moment! The big cat came in and in and opened up the mouth of the lagoon to the bridge, Bamboo! Then they started in front of my house and are working downstream where they have dug down to groundtable water. Today they are up by the yellow bridge banking and then further downstream by La Catalina school! Think they are waiting to do Helga's drive and in front of Martins' til the high tides are over and there is less water in the lagoon...and all of this is my assumption with a little chat thrown in there by the workers! -------------------

Re: Arroyo Posted by KenB on June 21, 2018, 12:26 pm, in reply to "Re: Arroyo" Thanks for the great progress report. It's an ambitious project that was sorely needed. Good on them. -------------------

Re: Arroyo Posted by Jean on June 21, 2018, 12:49 pm, in reply to "Re: Arroyo" Ken, while the arroyo probably needed to be cleared out, the amount of clearing is crazy. Sitting in my back yard I can barely see the tops of the dump trucks, because they've gone so deep.They have only begun in this part. I believe they are going deeper. Am waiting for them to demolish trees out back .. no more birds, iguanas. Guess you need to be here to "appreciate" it. -------------------

Re: Arroyo Posted by KenB on June 21, 2018, 2:31 pm, in reply to "Re: Arroyo" You're right Jean, you have to see it in person to get the whole picture and I'm saddened by your comments. Let's hope the trees are left in place it doesn't make sense to remove them. -------------------

Re: Arroyo Posted by Karen Taylor on June 21, 2018, 4:55 pm, in reply to "Re: Arroyo" I took this today from the burm out in back of my house. They have really hammered the arroyo both in width and depth. I've included a comparison video I took 5 years ago. This view is looking from the opening by Helga's to the opening by Doris and Stephanie's. The view is only a few seconds then focuses our dog Dulce, who has 3 legs, swimming . -------------------

Re: Arroyo Posted by Jean on June 21, 2018, 5:26 pm, in reply to "Re: Arroyo" KAREN, wickaad pissahh vid!! -------------------

Re: Arroyo Posted by Karen Taylor on June 21, 2018, 5:29 pm, in reply to "Re: Arroyo" JEAN! What's happening is quite the NIZZA!!! -------------------

Re: Arroyo Posted by Jean on June 21, 2018, 5:44 pm, in reply to "Re: Arroyo" Your not frontin' !!! And how's the squata runnin'? -------------------

Re: Arroyo Posted by Karen Taylor on June 21, 2018, 8:40 pm, in reply to "Re: Arroyo" For shizzle. Everything is running bombdiggity. -------------------

Re: Arroyo Posted by Daveeeed on June 22, 2018, 1:58 am, in reply to "Re: Arroyo" That’s all my land along the West Bank. There’s no way that they can expect that channel to stay as deep as it and as wide as they are digging it. Nature abhors a vacuum. I work for 40 years on flood channels and watched harbors fill-in and mirror seconds in a big storm. I worked on a project where they excavated about 100 times more material than that and it took two hours have a big storm to fill it all back him. Not likely that it will take any time at all for this to refill during the big storm. I wish them luck in making a harbor entrance but you’ll need to have a dredge there almost all the time because if it isn’t the mountain/river bed load filling it in it’ll be the ocean backfilling with Sand. I have many beautiful trees in my lower bench land that I am concerned about. Thanks for the pics and videos kids. Here is a picture of the lighted boat parade in the Santa Cruz Harbor. Maybe we can have one just like it. Fat chance big construction like this always freak you out. I don’t blame everybody for being a little rattled. -------------------

Re: Arroyo Posted by david c on June 22, 2018, 8:36 am, in reply to "Re: Arroyo" I think that Tamarindo has a lot to do with what is going on with the river bed. The ejido should be fixing the lack of water situation for the upcoming winter season rather than dilly dallying with this silly project. -------------------

Re: Arroyo Posted by Larry F on June 22, 2018, 1:54 pm, in reply to "Re: Arroyo" I wouldn't claim to know anything about drainage canals but have watched over the years Melaque's efforts to create drainage canals that actually worked. Eventually they were forced to line the canals with rock. Hard to get too optimistic about this. One does wonder how this would be a bigger problem than the town's water crisis. Or the sewer which still does function properly. -------------------

Re: Arroyo Posted by Kathy C on June 22, 2018, 6:34 pm, in reply to "Re: Arroyo" Stephanie - I think you're going to need a new pair of boots! -------------------

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