personal experience
Posted by Daniel H on March 21, 2020, 6:18 pm
At the store today it was the first time I saw someone (non local) wearing a mask (that didn't fit properly) and gloves, it was a notable event. I am doing less news now as the only thing that is changing is the numbers. Its mostly just bla bla bla at this point, I have become desensitize to the fear and panic. I'm not sure if that is from information saturation or just busy doing other things, like living this five minutes. Best to everyone, keep sharing your personal experience vs things you read. Onward through the fog | ----------------Re: personal experience
Posted by tim edwards on March 21, 2020, 7:23 pm, in reply to "personal experience"
In the US in the last two generations, we have abandon the understanding of CAUTION and replaced it with FEAR. It is a long conversation about the whys, but I don't think that the change serves us well. | ----------------Re: personal experience
Posted by Daniel H on March 21, 2020, 9:03 pm, in reply to "Re: personal experience"
I concur. on the personal experience level..... I just ordered chicken wings from La Chora (first time) their damn good! But as I was getting ready to suck the sauce off my fingers I remembered that I am not supposed to touch my face. Confusing to say the least. After pausing for a full one second I sucked them clean, do I need to self isolate now? No matter, I have been self isolating for the past couple of years and didn't realize it until recently. | ----------------Re: personal experience
Posted by bonnie on March 21, 2020, 10:57 pm, in reply to "Re: personal experience"
hola... flew to vermont today as my kids wanted me to be near medical... Manzanillo airport to Mexico city was not crowded, , some people had masks, some workers had gloves, my temperature was taken... In Mexico, it was not super crowded tho many were wearing masks, very few gloves... Gloves seem to be the most important especially when traveling... In Atlanta, crowds going thru immigration as usual, a few masks (less than Mexico)... Going thru in a wheelchair let me avoid the lines, and get to the next connection to Vermont, where there were even fewer masks or gloves available. Though in this town of Burlington, schools are closed, stores are closed, there are no wipes or alcohol available... Being conscious, people are staying a distance... I am not sortof quarantined for 14 days, having traveled in 3 airplanes... You wanted personal... that's mine. | ----------------Re: personal experience
Posted by Abram on March 21, 2020, 11:27 pm, in reply to "Re: personal experience"
Greetings from Oregon. On Friday the governor announced a new initiative for the state called Stay Safe, Stay at Home. she made it clear that it is not a "lock down". Essential businesses will still be open and people will be allowed to come and go as necessary to maintain their homes and livestock. However construction, retail other than "essential" and other business that cannot be done online is to be suspended for the coming weeks. people will be able to go for walks and other outside activities but encouraged to maintain a 6 foot distance and gatherings of 10 or more are strongly discouraged. On the surface things carry on as normal but when one interacts with random people in public many are scared, uncertain and in a state of disbelief. I have been doing my best to prepare my family for total quarantine if necessary even though there are only 2 reported cases in my county. The sun comes up and goes down the same as always and we do our best to take each day as it comes and give thanks, how ever there is a constant sense of a quit un ease and a certain foreboding. I have longtime friends in Washington state who have come down with the Bug. My friend Tommy works in a warehouse and his co-worker came down with a fever after spending time with his daughter for the weekend. He told Tommy that he was feeling feverish with chills and that he was going to call in sick the next day. Two days later Tommy's entire department, 14 people where all feverish and had varying flue like symptoms. His co-worker found out that there was an outbreak in Kirkland where his daughter lives and decided to get tested. He was diagnosed withe cove-19 as were 8 out of the fourteen people in his unit. Tommy had a fever and a slight cough for a few days but that was all. The doctor told him to assume that he had it and to self quarantine for 14 days and not to go to the hospital unless his symptoms were life threatening. Tommy's mom is my age [late forties], and she now has pneumonia but is fighting it at home at last report. Up until I spoke with Tommy the whole thing just seemed like some distant vague possibility that was happening somewhere else. After he shared his experience with me it suddenly became real. It goes to show how quickly this virus can spread and that for many it is little more than a bad cold but for others it can be life threatening. It can take up to 14 days to germinate and as few as four or five. Many people will be asymptomatic while others will be hospitalized or in serious peril. Please be safe, enjoy life in the moment and take whatever precautions you feel are necessary. As a wise man once said have faith in the creator but tie up your horses. | ----------------Re: personal experience
Posted by Abram on March 21, 2020, 11:34 pm, in reply to "Re: personal experience"
P.S. please excuse the punctuation, this is what happens when you post without reviewing first.! | ----------------Re: personal experience
Posted by tim edwards on March 22, 2020, 10:17 am, in reply to "Re: personal experience"
Hey D: you are fine..... it is respritory disease so sending those critters to you gut kills them quick. where did spell check go.????? ..… as you can see, I am not a very good speller | ----------------Re: personal experience
Posted by Daniel H on March 22, 2020, 10:57 am, in reply to "Re: personal experience"
"it is respiratory disease so sending those critters to you gut kills them quick." That doesn't seem to make much sense, if true than why stop touching your face? "where did spell check go.?" Board Host eliminated it about a year ago, I wrote to them and asked if I had the option to use it on the board and they said no. They also said that most browsers do spell check, but I have never found a way to get Firefox to do it. I also am a very poor speller, so what I do now is copy paste the post into an email, spell check it then copy paste it back to the message board. Kind of a drag but my spelling demands it. | ----------------Re: personal experience
Posted by Ron Smith on March 22, 2020, 11:02 am, in reply to "Re: personal experience"
Phonetic spelling works for me. | ----------------Re: personal experience
Posted by Daniel H on March 22, 2020, 11:24 am, in reply to "Re: personal experience"
Yeah they teach that in 2nd grade but I was already rebelling by then so... Sometimes my spelling is so bad that the spell checker doesn't even have a suggestion. When that happens I have to Duck Duck Go the word to get it. I searched and found this, I right click the message box and choose check spelling. The browser will now underline misspelled words but it doesn't give me the option of choosing the right one. There is probably a way to get what I want but at this point I don't care enough to find the answer. I will just have to wait until I have the energy to care. | ----------------Re: personal experience
Posted by Susana Vijaya on March 22, 2020, 12:40 am, in reply to "personal experience"
When doctors and health experts advise you to use a mask it is not to protect you from airborne. It is to prevent you from touching mouth and nose. | ----------------Re: personal experience
Posted by Daniel H on March 22, 2020, 3:39 am, in reply to "Re: personal experience"
Its more than both but that is a good point, thank you. It may take a little time before those mask don't freak me a bit. This has always been true in regards to the flu and other illnesses and I can recall hearing it before, but never to the point is should have been taught from our very early years. If I self observe I see myself touching my face several times an hour.. minimum! Perhaps a little hot sauce on the fingers would be a good way to break that habit Searched it but didn't read | ----------------Re: personal experience
Posted by Vicki Mercer on March 22, 2020, 8:08 am, in reply to "Re: personal experience"
I heard on a podcast last week that, if you wash your hands for 20 seconds and dry with a clean towel, you can touch your face or lick your fingers with gay abandon. It is wise to wash them well before eating. | ----------------Re: personal experience
Posted by CraigB on March 22, 2020, 8:34 am, in reply to "Re: personal experience"
Here in northern California the shutdown of all non essential businesses is largely working. An unfortunate exception in my little town is that a restaurant did not comply and then discovered that one of its employees was infected and potentially exposed a full house at the bar and dining room. It has resulted in our Counties first case and the county immediately shut down the restaurant and attached hotel. No one knows the names of all who may have come in contact. The County stated that the restarant/hotel operation may face serious legal and liability issues. | ----------------Re: personal experience
Posted by Neal on March 22, 2020, 12:32 pm, in reply to "Re: personal experience"
Danial if you had sauce all over your fingers it might indicate you were eating with your fingers which sort of trumps the whole don’t touch your face thing. P.S. I’ve been looking for a way to use trumps in a sentence for awhile Take care | ----------------Re: personal experience
Posted by Daniel H on March 22, 2020, 2:01 pm, in reply to "Re: personal experience"
Well their chicken wings, perhaps I should have ordered something else. Vicky gave the right answer, just wash your hands first. easy peasy. I ordered onion rings and chicken wigs and ate about 1/3 of each last night. i just finished of the chicken wings (I think the finger sucking is a big part of the experience) still got the rest of the onion rings for dinner. 9 out of 10, would order again. | ----------------Re: personal experience
Posted by Vicki Mercer on March 22, 2020, 2:31 pm, in reply to "Re: personal experience"
I wrote a subsequent reply. Must be an operator error because I do not see it now. I stressed that we also need to be concerned about who prepares and serves food. No one has been tested. Henceforth, I plan to wear a bandana when I prepare and serve anyone except myself. My husband and I are isolating ourselves to a major degree and I am working on disinfecting every darn thing we touch. I arranged with our next-door store to accept my orders by email, I then take bags to their door. They fill when they can and call me when they head to my house to place on my patio. I then bring in the bags and disinfect what I need within a time the virus can survive. Other things I put on a longer term shelf. And I wash the bags for the next use. I only get a chance to read the message board once a day, if that, because my hands are full getting to the point I feel safe. And because I have also been trying to help some in my family in the states with major challenges they have now. This is a major exam thrown at us. I hope everyone passes. Be extremely careful, everyone, please.
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Posted by Cathie Mehler on March 24, 2020, 1:58 pm, in reply to "Re: personal experience"
To continue our experience now that we are back on Lopez Island in Washington State USA. Our state along with others throughout the country is on a Stay-at-home order. Our county in the San Juan Islands has shut down all accommodations which includes our cottage and camping business until May 30. It is being taken very serious at the county and state level. | ----------------Re: personal experience
Posted by bonnie on March 24, 2020, 7:40 pm, in reply to "Re: personal experience"
Here in Vermont, they have also asked that you not bring grocery bags into the store, as the virus can live on surfaces for days, depending on the hardness of the material.. | ----------------Re: personal experience
Posted by Carole C. on March 24, 2020, 9:56 pm, in reply to "Re: personal experience"
Greetings from the land of enchantment, New Mexico... on our way to Manzanillo airport, we came to a roadblock where a medical truck was parked and we were stopped so temperatures could be checked with an electronic device pointed at but not touching one’s forehead, held by a masked and gloved attendant. At the general aviation part of the airport, nobody wore masks or gloves or checked anything. When we got to Guaymas airport they had us fill out a form asking for symptoms, places we’d been and also took our temperature with the same kind of device, wearing gloves and masks, and even photographed us (without asking). Next day they checked it again and we filled in the forms again. Also they passed out a pamphlet about the virus danger. Headlines in the local newspaper said stay home, but there was plenty of traffic and only some citizens were masked or gloved. We flew over trump’s wall to land at the tiny Santa Theresa, NM airport and had to wait 20 minutes for 2 customs and border control agents to arrive without the K-9 unit, though one of the men was carrying a leash. We filled in the declaration form regarding imports, but no health questionnaire or thermometer was in sight, though both men wore masks and gloves and one mentioned he heard the first symptom is the lack of taste and smell. They seemed worried and were very polite. We plan to get supplies tomorrow and then not see our friends.... sad to miss the sweet goodbyes in La Manzanilla but please know we cherish our friends and acquaintances and all the people of the town and dearly hope the virus passes you all by. Lots of love from Carole and Ike.... we hope to see you next year. | ----------------Re: personal experience
Posted by Carole C. on March 24, 2020, 9:58 pm, in reply to "Re: personal experience"
Greetings from the land of enchantment, New Mexico... on our way to Manzanillo airport, we came to a roadblock where a medical truck was parked and we were stopped so temperatures could be checked with an electronic device pointed at but not touching one’s forehead, held by a masked and gloved attendant. At the general aviation part of the airport, nobody wore masks or gloves or checked anything. When we got to Guaymas airport they had us fill out a form asking for symptoms, places we’d been and also took our temperature with the same kind of device, wearing gloves and masks, and even photographed us (without asking). Next day they checked it again and we filled in the forms again. Also they passed out a pamphlet about the virus danger. Headlines in the local newspaper said stay home, but there was plenty of traffic and only some citizens were masked or gloved. We flew over trump’s wall to land at the tiny Santa Theresa, NM airport and had to wait 20 minutes for 2 customs and border control agents to arrive without the K-9 unit, though one of the men was carrying a leash. We filled in the declaration form regarding imports, but no health questionnaire or thermometer was in sight, though both men wore masks and gloves and one mentioned he heard the first symptom is the lack of taste and smell. They seemed worried and were very polite. We plan to get supplies tomorrow and then not see our friends.... sad to miss the sweet goodbyes in La Manzanilla but please know we cherish our friends and acquaintances and all the people of the town and dearly hope the virus passes you all by. Lots of love from Carole and Ike.... we hope to see you next year. | ----------------Re: personal experience
Posted by Jean on March 24, 2020, 11:44 pm, in reply to "Re: personal experience"
So now we know what’s going up north, perhaps we can concentrate on what’s happening here. Chill | ----------------
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