Interesting fact....
Posted by Stephanie on July 13, 2020, 7:40 am
It seems that the majority of local coverage of coved cases are being share on la manzanilla life...but not here on the MB! The locals use that but the message then is not replicated here so those just reading here get the news of the spread! And I for one want to be able to track that info to see how it effects both myself and others and what the correlation is between the person contaminated is with my small window of going out in the pueblo! When you hear that Palapa Joe’s has closed because someone is now sick and a young woman out here in the hood tested positive...it is not meant to ostracize only to be aware that we are now living with it in our very small and highly sociable community that has not social distanced or known to be wearing masks! Only mentioning all this to be aware, take precautions and be safe! | ------------Re: Interesting fact....
Posted by Beccistarr on July 13, 2020, 9:44 am, in reply to "Interesting fact...."
Behave as though everyone is infected.....including yourself. Many people are asymtomatic and don’t even know they have the virus. It might relieve your paranoia to stay home for all but essential activities. | ------------Re: Interesting fact....
Posted by Stephanie on July 13, 2020, 10:49 am, in reply to "Re: Interesting fact...."
Not paranoid, practical and want others to be safe as well! Deciminating useful info to keep folks more protected seems beneficial to all! | ------------Re: Interesting fact....
Posted by Carol Lopez on July 13, 2020, 9:53 am, in reply to "Interesting fact...."
If something is posted on La Manzanilla Life, then it seems to me it is public knowledge. So it should be OK to post a link here on the message board. Does anyone object to that? ie, would that be an invasion of anyone's privacy? I do follow some of the conversations re the virus on La Manzanilla Life, and find the machine translations really confusing, garbled, misleading sometimes. I'm not sure if it's the fault of the translation, or whether it's the local colloquial way of speaking Spanish that makes these conversations so hard to understand. Anyway, if there's no objection, let's start linking to that FB page, right? | ------------Re: Interesting fact....
Posted by Lynne on July 13, 2020, 11:37 am, in reply to "Re: Interesting fact...."
Wouldn't it be a whole lot easier for individuals to check the La Manzanilla Life FB page themselves? Otherwise, who will be the self-appointed "linkee?" I would bet that no one will do it (thinking that someone else will do it) or that too many people will post the same links. That FB group has more than 1,100 members, so it's definitely where to find the local "chatter." My co-teacher in La Catalina's evening adult ESL program (now defunct) told me that writing and spelling are not part of the Mexican school curriculum, which is probably one of the reasons that those of us who learn "formal Spanish" have trouble understanding the posts. At least the people who have been infected are urging others to start wearing masks and take other precaucions that have been ignored way too long. Let's see if their warnings have any effect. | ------------Re: Interesting fact....
Posted by M Morgan on July 13, 2020, 1:04 pm, in reply to "Re: Interesting fact...."
Some of us are allergic to Facebook and so appreciate info aqui. | ------------Re: Interesting fact....
Posted by Richard on July 13, 2020, 1:30 pm, in reply to "Re: Interesting fact...."
"Some of us are allergic to Facebook and so appreciate info aqui." Facebook do not safeguard your personal data and information... so I second Morgans motion. Long ago I cancelled my Facebook account and I don't miss it's addictive effect one bit. Call me Zuckered out... Bit of Trivia I recently read of... Did you know that according to the 'Rules of the Court' original Canadian court documents can be upon application to the court (universally granted) can actually be served to a respondent via a public Facebook post instead of via personal service?? | ------------Re: Interesting fact....
Posted by KenB on July 13, 2020, 1:55 pm, in reply to "Re: Interesting fact...."
Count me with Morgan. I would'nt join FB even if they had a picture of Trump with his panta on fire. | ------------Re: Interesting fact....
Posted by KenB on July 13, 2020, 2:02 pm, in reply to "Re: Interesting fact...."
Oops. that was supposed to be "pants" not "panta". I'm not sure what a panta is, or even if he has one. | ------------Re: Interesting fact....
Posted by Lynne on July 13, 2020, 2:40 pm, in reply to "Re: Interesting fact...."
But if someone posts a link to a Facebook group, it takes you to Facebook. Or good luck finding someone who is willing to translate/post every La Manzanilla Life thread that might be relevant to English speakers. Any volunteers? | ------------Re: Interesting fact....
Posted by Beccistarr on July 13, 2020, 3:04 pm, in reply to "Re: Interesting fact...."
You can’t have it both ways. The information it there for the asking and you’d rather not take yourselves to FB but want a link that someone will be responsible for providing. Umm really. If you actually think anything anyone wants to find out about you is not available in a myriad of places other than FB you are simply naive. | ------------Re: Interesting fact....
Posted by M Morgan on July 13, 2020, 5:48 pm, in reply to "Re: Interesting fact...."
Yep, your info is available, you can run but you cannot hide. However............ look at facebook's record. It is not that your data is available it is that they sell your info for a profit, do not ask you if it is o.k. (well maybe in some legaleese that I cannot interpret). It is no wonder they are constantly being sued for gazillions of shekels. | ------------Re: Interesting fact....
Posted by Daniel H on July 13, 2020, 4:17 pm, in reply to "Re: Interesting fact...."
I will respond to your post Carol but my response is also to all the post between Carol's and mine. It is both legal and ethical to link to Facebook post. The main idea of a link is to validate the source of information. Validation of the source is very important! You can summarize a source but copy paste of all of it is considered in bad taste without a link to the source. They deserve credit for both their information and the effort they made to share it. If you quote a source and you don't know how to link then you should give the name of the Facebook group and the name of the poster (or name of the website and journalist) so others can verify the information. The Internet is built on links, not knowing how to link is like having a car and not knowing how to turn left. You will be able to do quite a bit but your not going to use the full potential of the car. Linking is so easy that once you learn how to do it you will wonder why you waited to learn. At the top of every web page, Facebook page etc. is the address bar. The address (URL) starts with https:// or https://, if you click on it it will burn blue, you right click and select copy. Next you go to the white space on the message board where you post a message, put the mouse arrow in that white space and left click, then right click and select paste. Now click preview and you should see the newly created link. That's it!
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Posted by Duckie Hoomever on July 13, 2020, 5:03 pm, in reply to "Re: Interesting fact...."------------Re: That Missing Link
Posted by Daniel H on July 13, 2020, 5:51 pm, in reply to "That Missing Link" Edited by board administrator July 13, 2020, 6:47 pm
As I open the LM Life Facebook page I see a post by Josefina that interest me and I want to share. I click on the date and time of her post and it brings that post up as a separate page. I can now copy paste the address and have a link to that particular post. https://www.facebook.com/groups/lamanzanillalife/permalink/581852532522021/ I can also copy the text and paste it in Google translate and post the translation "Thank you for your support, people take care of yourself and use mouth covers, I used it and with an oversight it infected me, it is real that I attended with the DOC Pedro Crespo 3151071465 Excellent attention and believe me it did not go so badly. I have passed and I am still isolated although I can now leave with caution. If someone wants to ask a question about the disease I can gladly answer to help. And I'm here to support whoever has symptoms". ----- If you wanted to reply to Josefina's post you should go to the Facebook link to do that. You will need a Facebook account and be logged in to post there. You could do a comment on the post here on this message board but chances are that Josefina does not read this message board and probably would not be aware of it. I could also do a post on this message board like this. ----- Josefina said she will help anyone who has symptoms https://www.facebook.com/groups/lamanzanillalife/permalink/581852532522021/ ----- The idea is communication and validation of information / source.
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Posted by Beccistarr on July 13, 2020, 7:32 pm, in reply to "Re: That Missing Link"
It sounds like voyeurism to me...you want to see what’s there but you don’t want anyone to know you’re looking. Hahaha Sounds like my husband who is in the Monty school of thought but he wants me to read the good posts to him. | ------------Re: That Missing Link
Posted by Lynne on July 13, 2020, 8:44 pm, in reply to "Re: That Missing Link"
This is a very good explanation, Mod D, but it sure takes a lot more steps than simply accessing the group directly. And you still end up in Facebook! | ------------Re: That Missing Link
Posted by Daniel H on July 13, 2020, 9:12 pm, in reply to "Re: That Missing Link" Edited by board administrator July 13, 2020, 9:25 pm
Yes, but on the message board you don't have to sift through all the advertising and photos of peoples food and other crap to get to the important information. Not to mention on Facebook having to click several times to get the responses and then the responses to responses, whereas on the message board its all laid out for you to see. Comparing the layout of the LM message board to Facebook would be like the two pictures analogy. One has a big ornate fancy frame with a tiny picture (content) the other (LM message board) has almost no frame and the picture (content) is everything. It may be in part that I am just not used to it but when it comes to accessing the information on both platforms the LM message board kicks Facebook's ass. Then you get to the data mining, Facebook is world famous for it, the message board does not even have one tracking cookie. Facebook is designed to make money, the LM message board is designed to make communication the primary goal. Its all prefect, each platform has its users and important information can be shared via link between the two | ------------Re: That Missing Link
Posted by Beccistarr on July 13, 2020, 9:53 pm, in reply to "Re: That Missing Link"
Gee Daniel you have to click and click..it’s a gift...something to do...unless your dance card is full🤪 | ------------Re: That Missing Link
Posted by M Morgan on July 13, 2020, 9:55 pm, in reply to "Re: That Missing Link"
you said it, and well said | ------------Re: That Missing Link
Posted by Lynne on July 14, 2020, 3:48 pm, in reply to "Re: That Missing Link"
Of course, we all prefer the Message Board! Facebook is user-unfriendly, cumbersome to maneuver, intrusive, and a general pain in the neck. My point is that this is a small town with two online forums, one of which is used by more than 1,100 Mexican residents who are currently discussing a situation that affects everone: the arrival of Covid-19 in our community. If you want to boycott Facebook, fine, but you shouldn't expect someone else to summarize or provide links to or otherwise feed you the information posted daily on La Manzanilla Life because you prefer the Message Board format or the "data mining" that comes with any use of the internet. You can quickly check that one FB group (Duckie provided a link), then clear your browser. Mis dos centavos. Over and out! | ------------Re: That Missing Link
Posted by Daniel H on July 14, 2020, 4:17 pm, in reply to "Re: That Missing Link" Edited by board administrator July 14, 2020, 5:10 pm
"Over and out!". I haven't over and outed you back yet. This is a topic I could talk about for quite some time. "but you shouldn't expect someone else to summarize or provide links to or otherwise feed you the information posted daily on La Manzanilla Life....." I don't expect that, but its like your saying if there is something on a website that is interesting I shouldn't expect someone to link to it and should just read the website for myself. The idea of links is to share what we find as important so others don't have to find it on their own. A little message board history. Back in 2000 the goal of all message boards was to get as many users as possible. I broke from that and started a two year long battle of getting those who did not live in La Manzanilla to use the Melaque and Barra message boards. The goal was to limit the number of post and replies to information that was about La Manzanilla posted by those who lived here. That policy is still exist (for the most part). If there is something on the Barra or Melaque board it can be mentioned here with a link to the source, and anyone can go to those boards if they choose to. I know that others link to the LM board, you can tell when the message count gets up around 300 +. Personally I would like to see a Spanish version of the message board, it would give those who want to break away from Facebook an option. A moderator would find it would be a big challenge moderating the LM board if Facebook did not exist. Edit: "You can quickly check that one FB group ,,, then clear your browser". You have to do a lot more than clear your browser to get rid of the crap Facebook puts on your computer, you have to run a program like CC Cleaner minimum. I wear two condoms whenever I go on Facebook https://www.mycleanpc.com/delete-facebook-tracking-cookies.html https://www.ccleaner.com/ccleaner/download For the in experienced best thing to do is buy a new computer and never go on Facebook or call an exorcist.
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Posted by Lynne on July 15, 2020, 11:34 pm, in reply to "Re: That Missing Link"
Plan B: Ask our joint housekeeper for the latest scoop? Actually, because I don't like FB either, that's what I do. Today she told me that our immediate neighbor, the one person in town who currently requires a steady supply of oxygen, does NOT have Covid-19. So now you know this good news, without having to check La Manzanilla Life.;-) | ------------Facebook question
Posted by Daniel H on July 15, 2020, 8:56 am, in reply to "Re: That Missing Link"
How do you know when someone added a comment ot a comment to a comment? | ------------Re: Facebook question
Posted by Beccistarr on July 15, 2020, 10:18 am, in reply to "Facebook question"------------Re: Facebook question
Posted by Daniel H on July 15, 2020, 4:42 pm, in reply to "Facebook question"
I did some reading on how to use Facebook and played around with the LM Life site trying to figure out how one can see updates to comments. I didn't find a way to do that other than opening each comment thread and looking for new reply's and and then having to open that reply to see if there was any new comments. I am sure it just takes some getting use to but I find it very difficult (like almost impssible) to follow conversations. That plus the completely off topic advertisements and post plus the privacy situation renews my reasons for not having a Facebook account and for not checking in on sites like LM life. I won't be back and hope that any important information is shared to the LM message board by someone with compassion for others and who likes to share information. Can't say I didn't try. Over and out. | ------------Re: Facebook question
Posted by Laurisa on July 15, 2020, 5:42 pm, in reply to "Re: Facebook question"
There's an old saying from a software developer I once knew....he called it the KISS theory....short for "keep it simple stupid"...somewhere down the line this has been forgotten in computer technology. | ------------Re: Facebook question
Posted by Beccistarr on July 15, 2020, 6:31 pm, in reply to "Re: Facebook question"
It’s obviously not for everyone but turns out it’s the social media of choice for the Mexicans. | ------------Re: Interesting fact....
Posted by Beccistarr on July 15, 2020, 10:21 am, in reply to "Interesting fact...."
That or under the original post where is has the number of comments | ------------Re: Interesting fact....
Posted by Cruz on July 15, 2020, 12:37 pm, in reply to "Re: Interesting fact...."
FB configuration sucks and yet people figure it out and make it work, si se puede, great. But it is not for me. Maybe it's my age. Makes me appreciate our local LM Message Board even more. Much less complicated, more straight forward and less commercial and trashy. Gracias, Daniel, good job. I applaud your foresight, especially for someone that likes to live only in the moment. Cruz | ------------Re: Interesting fact....
Posted by M Morgan on July 15, 2020, 12:53 pm, in reply to "Re: Interesting fact...."
Less than hopeful news (stone the messenger)
Laurie Garrett Pulitzer winning science writer about corona-virus realities that you and I would prefer not to know.
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