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Crossing the border

Posted by Daniel H on August 23, 2020, 9:14 pm

I know someone who just drove from the US to La Manzanilla and
said it was the easiest crossing they have ever experienced.

This is the value of personal experience as compared to what
we read on the news. It is completely the opposite of what
I thought was happening. Here are a couple of links as to why
I thought that way.

https://old.reddit.com/r/worldnews/comments/hm1anc/mexico_town_blocks_road_from_us_border_over_fear/

https://old.reddit.com/r/worldnews/comments/hkqtzy/mexico_closes_us_border_in_arizona_to_stop_july/

https://old.reddit.com/r/China_Flu/comments/hjpchp/arizona_mexico_sonoran_border_shut_down_by/

I had a buyer I was working with recently who felt that People
were not going to be able to access their property here in Mexico.
I told him I felt like that was a conspiracy theory.

Really, can it get any more weird that this?

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Re: Crossing the border

Posted by david dagoli on August 23, 2020, 11:42 pm, in reply to "Crossing the border"

They may be confusing Mexico with Canada. There are folks in Canada that can not access their properties in the U.S. Even U.S. citizens that own property in Point Roberts (a U.S. enclave near Vancouver) can not access it because you have to cross the U.S./Canada border, which remains closed to all non-essential personnel. I believe Mexico/ U.S. border is not closed in this manner.

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Re: Crossing the border

Posted by Daniel H on August 24, 2020, 12:59 am, in reply to "Re: Crossing the border"

Wow, that is a lot of red.

Did a search, I guess non essential travel is a pretty flexible
term with Mexico.

https://duckduckgo.com/?q=mexico+closes+border+2020&t=hk&ia=web

The buyers were referring to travel to Mexico. It is amazing some
of the ideas people pick up, just depends on the persons news
source and circle of friends I guess.

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Re: Crossing the border

Posted by Mary Beth Sundstad on August 24, 2020, 10:30 am, in reply to "Re: Crossing the border"

This link indicates that land border crossings will now be restricted in Texas, Ariz., and Calif. in order to limit non-essential travel for both US citizens and Mexico permanent residents. https://www.reuters.com/article/us-health-coronavirus-usa-mexico/us-closes-lanes-adds-checks-at-mexico-border-to-contain-coronavirus-idUSKBN25H2RY?fbclid=IwAR0tRASUs_tE0umSmN9-36kl8chGN8blySW19qnAxp9OXCVFAj6ZPVzXJL8

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Re: Crossing the border

Posted by Alex Kim Robbins on August 24, 2020, 10:34 am, in reply to "Re: Crossing the border"

On paper it seems as though the US/MX boarder is still closed technically till the 21st of September for all non essential travel.

We all know the generally leniency of the Mexican Customs but with phrases like “may be denied” it sounds contradictory in the sense that the US Embassy really doesn’t know and doesn’t want to be blamed if you are turned away at the boarder. It’s a shame as it causes unnecessary worry to those that want to come to Mexico.

https://mx.usembassy.gov/u-s-citizen-services/covid-19-information/

“Are U.S. citizens permitted to enter? [Yes]
The United States and Mexico entered a joint initiative March 21 restricting non-essential travel along the U.S.-Mexico land border to prevent the spread of the COVID-19 virus.

Non-essential travel includes travel that is considered tourism or recreational in nature.

The restrictions are in place until at least September 21. Please see the Embassy’s fact sheet for more information.

Travelers entering Mexico by land from the United States may be denied admission if the purpose of their visit is considered non-essential.

Travelers should carry evidence of the essential nature of their visit and evidence of their resident status in Mexico, if applicable.”

Update regarding the Non-Essential travel extension from the Department of Homeland Security.
The travel restriction was negotiated and extended with Mexico, Canada and the US included.

https://www.dhs.gov/news/2020/08/14/fact-sheet-dhs-measures-border-limit-further-spread-coronavirus

What is most incredible is that the DHS website above links me to Twitter to provide the official release of the new extension. https://twitter.com/DHS_Wolf/status/1294272922559930370

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Re: Crossing the border

Posted by Alex Kim Robbins on August 24, 2020, 10:53 am, in reply to "Crossing the border"

Daniel, regarding your comment about first hand experience you are super correct.

I was on an international flight back from Zurich watching CNN and saw this “live” video of JFK International:

I landed and saw this:

Filled out a short half page questionnaire that was thrown in a cardboard box upon arrival and went on my way.

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Re: Crossing the border

Posted by Daniel H on August 24, 2020, 11:18 am, in reply to "Re: Crossing the border"

Great post Alex.

Due to personal experiences posted on social media we are all
becoming more aware of the difference between main stream news
and the reality on the ground.
We are also becoming aware that the reason for that discrepancy
is both control of the narrative and to increase advertising
revenue by making situations sound more important / fearful than
they actually are.

Its a process but people are working their way through the
changes brought about by social media and I trust we will find
our way if the slippery slope of censorship does not interfere.

Perhaps a news program titled Personal Experience would help
to clarify some situations.

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