Deadly Seas
Posted by Felipe on July 12, 2021, 9:42 am
Despite the efforts of strong swimming heroes, a visitor to Boca de Iguanas drowned yesterday. Many Thanks to the bomberos, Police and volunteers who all tried their hardest to revive the soul. RIP | -----------------------Re: Deadly Seas
Posted by LisaFern on July 12, 2021, 11:06 am, in reply to "Deadly Seas"
What a tragedy. Many thanks to those who tried their best to rescue. Is there signage at Boca about the danger of the strong riptide there? | -----------------------Re: Deadly Seas
Posted by Linda Mandala on July 12, 2021, 6:47 pm, in reply to "Re: Deadly Seas"
So sad to hear this news...we were there a couple of days ago and there were so many people in the water...even children...I was worried something like this might happen as the waves were so big and powerful. Our hearts go out to the family of this soul. | -----------------------Re: Deadly Seas
Posted by Norma on July 12, 2021, 7:54 pm, in reply to "Re: Deadly Seas"
Our friend Giff La Rose was caught in that riptide and died 2 and a half years ago. There is absolutely no signage and lots of people drown every year there. So sad to be on vacation and have such tragedy. | -----------------------Re: Deadly Seas
Posted by RickF on July 12, 2021, 9:50 pm, in reply to "Re: Deadly Seas"
"There is absolutely no signage and lots of people drown every year there. ...well maybe a warning sign could be made?!? | -----------------------Re: Deadly Seas
Posted by Norma on July 13, 2021, 9:41 am, in reply to "Re: Deadly Seas"
I'm not in Mexico, so another project for someone who cares. Not into swimming, but very much into helping dogs, so when I come down in January, I will take a few home for new families.
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Posted by Bob 44 on July 13, 2021, 10:03 am, in reply to "Re: Deadly Seas"
Bilingual sign of course,with documentation of drownings6431374 | -----------------------Re: Deadly Seas
Posted by Ross on July 14, 2021, 10:14 am, in reply to "Re: Deadly Seas"
A bilingual would be very good, make it hard to remove and not on the beach. Maybe where people enter the beach. After living on the beach for over 20 years, I have seen signs come and go due to weather, tides, or someone not liking what it says. | -----------------------Warning signs for Deadly Seas
Posted by Felipe on July 16, 2021, 11:47 am, in reply to "Re: Deadly Seas"
Thanks Ross for the bigger perspective. We see A few prime spots for posting warning signs. What do you feel it should say? We agree it should be bilingual and hard to remove to encourage people away from the Extreme end of the beach. Between the rocks and the regular rip currents we see from the hill it’s purely just dangerous for poor swimmers and even so for strong swimmers like us. I helped rescue a 14-year-old last year. Too many close calls. I want to to put up another cross to honor the man who lost his life as yet another warning. | -----------------------Re: Warning signs for Deadly Seas
Posted by Norma on July 16, 2021, 12:12 pm, in reply to "Warning signs for Deadly Seas"
Thanks so much, Felipe. It is so important that people know. Perhaps there could be government help as this is for the safety of tourists. My friend drowned on the La Manzanilla side of the old Hotel. People should know how wide the riptide can be. | -----------------------Re: Warning signs for Deadly Seas
Posted by Mazinka on July 16, 2021, 12:55 pm, in reply to "Re: Warning signs for Deadly Seas"
Why not get in touch with Protección Civil and see if they can put up warning signs etc? | -----------------------Re: Warning signs for Deadly Seas
Posted by Ross on July 17, 2021, 12:22 pm, in reply to "Warning signs for Deadly Seas"
A graphic sign showing rip tides and the dangers would be understood by all as well as written warnings, "PELIGRO! CORRIENTES FUERTES!" Proteccion Civil does make such signs. They installed one right in front of our house on the beach. When we returned in the fall, it was gone, a hurricane took it out, but one edge of the metal sign still protruded up from the sand causing a hazard. I and my kids got caught in a rip tide in Mazatlan, no signs at all. It was ugly, big brown waves and the rip prevented us from swimming back to the beach. I remembered the tactic of swimming parallel to the beach to get out of the rip. We did that but got nowhere because we were swimming against the prevailing current that was always in that location. Finally, my son said we should body surf the waves. We did that and when we got back to the beach, I kissed the sand. My younger daughter said, as she was the last one in, "What was the big deal?" She had stayed calm and just treaded water but did body surf back to the beach. After that lesson, whenever we went swimming at a new beach, we always sat on the sand and assessed what the conditions were, first thing, looking for rips, rocks, and prevailing currents. | -----------------------Re: Deadly Seas
Posted by Lynne on July 17, 2021, 12:40 am, in reply to "Deadly Seas"
When I spent a lot of time in Melaque before moving to La Manz, I knew that the only safe place to swim was Chicken Beach at the west end because red flags were placed from mid-Melaque along the beach all the way to Barra. They seemed to be a universal symbol of danger, much like skiers know to avoid slopes marked with black triangles. Just another idea. | -----------------------Re: Deadly Seas
Posted by Dan Patman on July 17, 2021, 4:15 am, in reply to "Re: Deadly Seas"
Whilst a good idea Lynne, don't count on it. If you go to Manzanillo with any regularity you will see there are almost permanent red flags at Miramar (where the single lane road is right by the beach). It is a section with lots of rip tides and rocks and dangers, yet is one of the most swum in areas of Manzanillo. There are now a couple of lifeguard towers which help, but they are not manned full time. I would think signs would be possibly a better option than flags. I have seen (somewhere, can't find it right now) and diagrammatic sign showing the dangers and how to get out of them. Maybe P. Civil or the delegacion or someone could do a bilingual version of this. If I can find it i will post it here. | -----------------------Re: Deadly Seas
Posted by Lynne on July 17, 2021, 10:36 am, in reply to "Re: Deadly Seas"
I agree with you, Dan. But many people cannot read, and many more are foolish. Someone is bound to drown for one reason or another. Sigh. | -----------------------Re: Deadly Seas
Posted by Neal on July 17, 2021, 11:32 am, in reply to "Re: Deadly Seas"-----------------------Re: Deadly Seas
Posted by Carol Lopez on July 17, 2021, 12:40 pm, in reply to "Re: Deadly Seas"
Thanks for sharing, Neal! Ironic that that place is also a Boca. I see piles of wood here and there, (from 4 Seasons, I guess.) How hard could it be to make a few wooden signs and paint them with marine paint? I’ve heard of a couple of extranjeros living here who have great woodwork shops, probably not getting much use these days. This would be a worthy project. If the signs disappear, well at least the intention was there. If someone will volunteer to make the signs, I will buy the marine paint for them. | -----------------------Re: Deadly Seas
Posted by Steve Pearson on July 17, 2021, 2:24 pm, in reply to "Re: Deadly Seas"
I am sure Rick Cranston would be glad to paint them. He is a great artist. You might want them in French, as well as Spanish & English. | -----------------------Re: Deadly Seas
Posted by Carol Lopez on July 17, 2021, 2:32 pm, in reply to "Re: Deadly Seas"
Great idea, Steve!! I’ll ask him. | -----------------------Re: Deadly Seas
Posted by Nansee on July 18, 2021, 9:38 am, in reply to "Re: Deadly Seas"
This is a good direction. Instead of waiting for the "authorities" who have other priorities, we can do this as a community. Thanks for thinking of ways to take action and make a difference. | -----------------------Re: Deadly Seas
Posted by Carol Lopez on July 21, 2021, 9:15 am, in reply to "Re: Deadly Seas"
Great news!, Rick will make the sign. He’s a very experienced sign maker (check out the La Playa restaurant one). Now we just need someone to choose the wording, what would be most effective? And exactly where should the first one be placed? We also need a rectangle of plywood - and a sturdy post. Who can find one of those, or donate something from your stash? Rick can use acrylic paint for the message, and then, I will buy the marine quality varnish to put over it, to completely seal it, front and back. | -----------------------Re: Deadly Seas
Posted by Norma on July 21, 2021, 12:14 pm, in reply to "Re: Deadly Seas"
There are some Riptide Warning signs if you google them. I like the one with the visual diagram that says WARNING! RIP CURRENTS WATCH OUT! You could be swept out to sea and drown. If in doubt, don't go out! Sorry I am not adept at posting it, Carol! | -----------------------Sign and Rescue training for Deadly Seas
Posted by Felipe on July 23, 2021, 11:53 am, in reply to "Re: Deadly Seas"
Thank you all for organizing the production of a sign. Glad to take part and help make it or actually put it up in Boca De Iguanas. There is a big sign for the civil group on the beach Which I repaired. However the phone numbers are hard to read. I’ll try to remember to bring some paint or a marker to the beach. It’s also in a place where few look at it unless they’re probably already in the water. We had two more rescues in the last several days! We’ve left a boogie board at the beach for a rescue to speed up our time if we have to bolt down to the beach in an emergency. A year ago I got a phone call from the designated person on a Saturday morning asking me to rescue someone because they were in town. Hard to run down the steep path carrying a boogie board and I’m almost 60. We are very pleased To have seen the Bomberos back on the beach with the JetSki ... they appeared to be training people in rescue. This was literally right in front of the place where they brought in the soul who passed away in front of us. Please contact me about the sign production and placement if you like. Text or calling works great 322-332-8249 Mexican phone. Gracias everybody Felipe | -----------------------
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