Senate beefs up laws on access to beaches
Posted by Daniel H on October 2, 2021, 9:40 pm-------------------Re: Senate beefs up laws on access to beaches
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Posted by Nigel on October 12, 2021, 6:06 pm, in reply to "Senate beefs up laws on access to beaches"
I recently swam from a local boat to the beach below. I can confirm that a couple a friendly but solid-looking security guards quickly came to welcome us while suggesting our visit should complete quickly. Maybe news of the new laws had failed to reach them?
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Posted by Robbie Boyes on October 12, 2021, 8:13 pm, in reply to "Re: Senate beefs up laws on access to beaches"
I have been ushered off the beach in Boca while the rave festival was taking place.
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Posted by Daniel H on October 12, 2021, 8:49 pm, in reply to "Re: Senate beefs up laws on access to beaches" Edited by board administrator October 12, 2021, 8:52 pm
Please expand on that occurrence, I'm interested in the details. Was it because you are old past 30, or cause you weren't naked? Or something so boring as you didn't pay. God knows it wasn't because you are not a hip, cool, friendly, ready to share your stash person | -------------------Re: Senate beefs up laws on access to beaches
Posted by Robbie Boyes on October 12, 2021, 9:12 pm, in reply to "Re: Senate beefs up laws on access to beaches"
I'll tell you all about it sometime over a beer and a shot. ? | -------------------Re: Senate beefs up laws on access to beaches
Posted by Daniel H on October 12, 2021, 9:45 pm, in reply to "Re: Senate beefs up laws on access to beaches"
Hmmm, tantalizing. Unwilling to share publicly, needs beer and Tequila setting to expand, I'm in. | -------------------Senate Approves The Reduction Of The Federal Maritime-Terrestrial Zone Extension
Posted by Daniel H on October 13, 2021, 3:51 am, in reply to "Re: Senate beefs up laws on access to beaches" Edited by board administrator October 13, 2021, 4:40 am
Beach access is a hot button issue in places where locals can't use the beach because hotels have it staked out for their guest. I went to look for some relevant articles (I only linked to the search results) and found this article. Senate Approves The Reduction Of The Federal Maritime-Terrestrial Zone Extension The article is worded in a way that makes it seem like its good for the people with only this short paragraph stating the actual situation. "Likewise, it should be noted that the reform does not solve possible conflicts that could arise from the reform with respect to constructions that could be located as of today in the first 10-meter strip and the access to the same." I'm going to need some help on this one, how can reducing the Federal Zone down from 20 meters to 10 meters (from median high tide) possibly be beneficial to the people of Mexico? Answer is it can't, there will be less beach to use because construction will be allowed closer to the ocean. If I am correct this is very disappointing news and counter to the intent of the mentioned beefing up of access laws. Someone please tell me I'm wrong on this.
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Posted by Daniel H on October 13, 2021, 8:34 am, in reply to "Senate Approves The Reduction Of The Federal Maritime-Terrestrial Zone Extension" Edited by board administrator October 13, 2021, 8:50 am
OK, I think I get it. Before this reform a beach had to be a minimum of 20 meters wide before the people had rights to it. That has been reduced to 10 meters, so now the people have rights to the smaller / thinner / skinnier (minimum 10 meters) beaches. Or parts of a beach that are left after a concession is granted. A loosely stated example (guessing here). Previously if a hotel used its concession and there was less than 20 meters of beach left the people had no rights, now they do. Its something I never really got, why would someone want to go to a country and not hang out with the people who live there? Especially when those people are a wonderful as they are in La Manzanilla (for example). I always felt that the people who took over Tenacatita really blew a great thing. They had a controlled access completely authentic Mexican experience for everyone to use and they killed it. Idiots. | -------------------Re: Senate beefs up laws on access to beaches
Posted by Daniel H on October 13, 2021, 10:06 am, in reply to "Re: Senate beefs up laws on access to beaches" Edited by board administrator October 13, 2021, 10:29 am
I don't think news has failed to reach them but you picked an extreme example due to its isolation i.e. who would want to walk to that beach. Closer to home, just North of the Lagoon there are a few malicons (passage ways) for the public to access the beach (very limited parking though) between here and Boca de Iguanas. Recently one of those malicons just disappeared due to the property owner blocking it (you can still see the structure on the beach, just no way to get there). This new law says that people now have the right to use anyone's land to access the beach, so I would imagine there will be pressure from the other "owners" on the beach to re open that passage way. ---- "Property owners in Mexico are being required to allow access through their land for the public to reach beaches that do not have access roads, under a law enacted Wednesday. The Environment Department said land owners would be compensated for access. The law also establishes fines of up to $49,000 for hotels, restaurants or other property owners that restrict access to the country’s beaches". Love the part about the Mexican's getting arrested, the Rosa Parks of Mexico beach access. I wouldn't be surprised to see that kind of protest increase to not only using "service isles" but using the table and chairs that are on public beach without paying, or just moving them out of the space that is legally theirs to use. https://sentinelcolorado.com/uncategorized/mexico-enacts-law-to-guarantee-public-access-to-all-beaches/ There is also this "Federal law already states the public cannot be denied access to a space 20 meters (65 feet) inland from the high tide line" In my other post on this thread I expressed confusion and then clarification on the benefits of that 20 meters being changed to 10 meters. I think I am back to the confused category. How can it be beneficial to the people for that 20 meters to become 10 meters? Arghhh.
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