It’s now called “Physical Distancing “ and we ALL need to take this seriously
Posted by Howie Ross on March 23, 2020, 5:34 pm
https://www.google.ca/amp/s/globalnews.ca/news/6717166/what-is-physical-distancing/amp/ I just got back to Canada on Thursday night and it’s a different reality as far as Coronavirus than when I was in La Manzanilla. Very different. It’s not business or lifestyle as usual anymore. I expect, judging by what I’ve seen on the message board today, that people may get mad at me for posting this, oh well, I could take it. People are dying and no one is exempt from this possibility. Warm climates don’t help kill or slow the virus according to researchers. Gathering in groups is NOT OK. Exercising together is NOT OK Lots of things that were ok a short while ago are NOT OK NOW. Maybe a few weeks of isolation will be enough until it passes. No one knows. If you don’t think you’re going to get sick, then do these things for the rest of the community. I’m in quarantine now and Jen is in a hotel. We are taking this very seriously, because it is serious. Mexico and some other countries have not gotten the message or acted strongly enough. This is real All the best Salud | ----------------Re: It’s now called “Physical Distancing “ and we ALL need to take this seriously
Posted by Ron Smith on March 23, 2020, 5:43 pm, in reply to "It’s now called “Physical Distancing “ and we ALL need to take this seriously "
Well said! There's a bit of hands over ears and la, la, la, la happening. | ----------------Re: It’s now called “Physical Distancing “ and we ALL need to take this seriously
Posted by DK on March 23, 2020, 6:05 pm, in reply to "It’s now called “Physical Distancing “ and we ALL need to take this seriously "
Well said and to the point.
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Posted by Jo Anna on March 23, 2020, 6:53 pm, in reply to "It’s now called “Physical Distancing “ and we ALL need to take this seriously "
THIS, from my perspective, is THE point. Thank you Howie Ross for your succinct post.
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Posted by Sherri on March 23, 2020, 8:29 pm, in reply to "It’s now called “Physical Distancing “ and we ALL need to take this seriously "
For the greater good we need to heed Howie's post. In the future we WILL meet again and rejoice in the beach. | ----------------Re: It’s now called “Physical Distancing “ and we ALL need to take this seriously
Posted by Daniel H on March 23, 2020, 8:43 pm, in reply to "It’s now called “Physical Distancing “ and we ALL need to take this seriously "
"people may get mad at me for posting this, oh well, I could take it." Me too which is why I am going to play devils advocate on this. You said ... "Maybe a few weeks of isolation will be enough until it passes. No one knows. If you don’t think you’re going to get sick, then do these things for the rest of the community. I’m in quarantine now and Jen is in a hotel. We are taking this very seriously, because it is serious. Mexico and some other countries have not gotten the message or acted strongly enough". Can you see the social privilege in that? You have the money and the time and space to take those actions. What about the people who are living hand to mouth? If they take a day off work they are in immediate financial difficulties. As was mentioned on the town meeting today "I may die of the corona virus, but I'm not going to starve to death." Do you see the reality, the struggle, the desperation behind those words? We can't just tell others to conform to our expectations we have to take responsibility for ourselves. If you are really that afraid of the virus then do as Vicky is doing . Just sayin
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Posted by Jo Anna on March 23, 2020, 9:02 pm, in reply to "Re: It’s now called “Physical Distancing “ and we ALL need to take this seriously "
I get it, Daniel; I suspect we all get it. I am privileged, no doubt about it, and I appreciate that every day. One of the privileges I'm afforded on my smallsmall pension, is being able to spend my winters in that place of my heart. I deeply hope La Manzanilla doesn't become Little Italy. I weep, many times a day; I weep for those who have become ill, for those who have died, for those who are fearful (for themselves, for their kids, parents, loved ones); I weep for what we have made of our world, of our Mother Earth. In the meantime, I am well, for now, though kinda lonely and definitely missing my dear friends in my dear place. Be well, be happy, and continue to cleans your body, inside and out, with alcohol! | ----------------Re: It’s now called “Physical Distancing “ and we ALL need to take this seriously
Posted by Howie on March 23, 2020, 9:12 pm, in reply to "Re: It’s now called “Physical Distancing “ and we ALL need to take this seriously "
Thanks for your perspective; I usually appreciate and agree with the way you dissect and analyze things. I agree with your assessment here too. It is from a privileged vantage point that I wrote this. As complex as this issue is, I really don’t see any other way out of this other than short term pain for long term gain. The Mexican government has called for a 5 day isolation period. I’m not saying that’s even doable for many people. What I am saying, is that all non essential activities and socializing should stop immediately. People need to work and feed their families. I support that 100%. It’s the other things, the socializing in the jardin, and other activities that could be done with a greater awareness of physical distancing that I’m suggesting happens now. Until I left on Thursday last week, having decided on Wednesday the day before, I did not understand the seriousness of this virus. My plan was to stay in LM and ride this out for however long it took. Then, because I do have the means to fly away, and given my personal situation having my wife here in Canada, we decided I should go north. I went back and forth on my decision and when it came down to it, I realized it was better for me to return to Canada. Do I feel good about the decision? Yes and no. I never feel good when I get to make certain choices that others can’t make because of finances. I wish good health and a good life for everyone, I really do. In LM, when I left 4 days ago, life was pretty much as usual. When I got to Canada, I realized life is not “as usual”. I’m just another speck in the human chain, doing the best I can. Sharing my post today was, and remains, with the best of intentions and I stand by what I wrote. The message here is; wash your hands often, keep a physical distance of 2 meters, be kind and generous. (Well, the last 2 are my additions). Take care and to everyone, Salud | ----------------Re: It’s now called “Physical Distancing “ and we ALL need to take this seriously
Posted by Daniel H on March 23, 2020, 9:23 pm, in reply to "Re: It’s now called “Physical Distancing “ and we ALL need to take this seriously "
Well said, thank you for both the post and the response. If we can learn to tolerate a little criticism once in a while perhaps we could go up a level on the evolution of communication. | ----------------Re: It’s now called “Physical Distancing “ and we ALL need to take this seriously
Posted by Howie on March 24, 2020, 8:23 am, in reply to "Re: It’s now called “Physical Distancing “ and we ALL need to take this seriously "
Once again Daniel, you bring another perspective. Thx | ----------------Re: It’s now called “Physical Distancing “ and we ALL need to take this seriously
Posted by Daniel H on March 24, 2020, 9:10 am, in reply to "Re: It’s now called “Physical Distancing “ and we ALL need to take this seriously "
As I said I was playing devil's advocate, I could argue against the position I took. Distancing is crucial (as you said), hunger/poverty is very real which gives us a dilemma. That dilemma has several possible solutions, here are a couple. One would be to augment the pay of the most poor so they could do distancing. Another could be a rotation of workers, 1/2 work one day the other 1/2 another day, which may cut the economic hit in 1/2. "What we have here is a failure to communicate" its almost always the case, we could also work on that. | ----------------Re: It’s now called “Physical Distancing “ and we ALL need to take this seriously
Posted by Red on March 24, 2020, 9:05 am, in reply to "It’s now called “Physical Distancing “ and we ALL need to take this seriously "
Take care brother, hugs for Jen. rojo y KC | ----------------Re: It’s now called “Physical Distancing “ and we ALL need to take this seriously
Posted by Neal on March 24, 2020, 10:18 am, in reply to "Re: It’s now called “Physical Distancing “ and we ALL need to take this seriously "
An interesting thread. While all this sheltering in place and social distancing will save lives it is also going to kill some people. How many low income workers such as waiters and hotel employees will be pushed over the edge by a couple of months of unemployment? I am not talking about Mexico either. I have only read one article even raising the issue of the longer term consequences of the current hysteria. Before anybody jumps on me let me assure you I have no idea how to proceed at this point. | ----------------Re: It’s now called “Physical Distancing “ and we ALL need to take this seriously
Posted by Howie on March 24, 2020, 10:15 am, in reply to "It’s now called “Physical Distancing “ and we ALL need to take this seriously "
“Extraordinary circumstances call for extraordinary measures”. Or; “Desperate times call for desperate measures”. Doctors are literally begging people to stay home, unless they have essential reasons to go outside. I would say feeding your family, maintaining your business, or working your job, are essential. Visiting in the jardin, or at a dance, are not essential in the short term. I’m not looking to change a way of life or a culture; my goal is to help keep people safe and healthy and in the long term, preserve a lifestyle and culture. Salud | ----------------Re: It’s now called “Physical Distancing “ and we ALL need to take this seriously
Posted by Linda y Ted on March 24, 2020, 11:08 am, in reply to "Re: It’s now called “Physical Distancing “ and we ALL need to take this seriously "
Good post, Howie. Be well, you two! | ----------------Re: It’s now called “Physical Distancing “ and we ALL need to take this seriously
Posted by Howie on March 24, 2020, 12:51 pm, in reply to "Re: It’s now called “Physical Distancing “ and we ALL need to take this seriously "
A toddler has just been confirmed to have covid in your area in BC, Ted and Linda. Doctors in your town, and in other areas, are begging people to stay home, except for essential outings, such as food and if you have an essential services job. Hope you're both well | ----------------Re: It’s now called “Physical Distancing “ and we ALL need to take this seriously
Posted by Howie on March 25, 2020, 8:31 am, in reply to "It’s now called “Physical Distancing “ and we ALL need to take this seriously "----------------Re: It’s now called “Physical Distancing “ and we ALL need to take this seriously
Posted by Linda Mandala on March 25, 2020, 2:49 pm, in reply to "Re: It’s now called “Physical Distancing “ and we ALL need to take this seriously "
Old news now...Today Jalisco gov. said they have expanded they stay at home order for 25 days...Even Obrador agreed...praying everyone takes this to heart., Spoke to a couple Mexican friends today (from a safe distance) both said they do not expect people here for Semana Santos ...espero que eso va a pasar Linda | ----------------Re: It’s now called “Physical Distancing “ and we ALL need to take this seriously
Posted by Jeanne on March 25, 2020, 3:22 pm, in reply to "Re: It’s now called “Physical Distancing “ and we ALL need to take this seriously "
Linda, where did you get that info? From the article Elke posted? I’m trying to verify it from at least one other source. My connections with Proteccion Civil in La Huerta seem to know nothing about it. | ----------------Re: It’s now called “Physical Distancing “ and we ALL need to take this seriously
Posted by Mike & Tracy on March 25, 2020, 6:49 pm, in reply to "Re: It’s now called “Physical Distancing “ and we ALL need to take this seriously "
Howie and Daniel . This, by far, was the best thread we have read lately on the Message Board. It was knowledgeable and enlightening, and loved the banter back and forth. Thank you both🥰 | ----------------Re: It’s now called “Physical Distancing “ and we ALL need to take this seriously
Posted by Howie on March 25, 2020, 7:33 pm, in reply to "Re: It’s now called “Physical Distancing “ and we ALL need to take this seriously "
Hi Mike and Tracy: I’m so glad that Daniel and I are were able to supply you with some entertainment. Daniel is an amazing person, with good thought provoking ideas and issues. Totally respectful all the way around. This is serious, and I didn’t get how serious it is until I got up north. Hopefully it blows right over quickly. Take care, be safe, and wash your hands!! | ---------------- |
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